“Belonging” and the Area of Study September 18, 2007
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This is a work in progress 2007 – 2008
Resources
Fiction
Roddy Doyle, Paddy Clark HaHa
Paul Gallico, The Snow Goose
J D Salinger, Catcher In The Rye
Ken Kesey, Kes
Geraldine Brooks, March
Lionel Shriver, We Need To Talk About Kevin
Alice Sebold , The Lovely Bones
Khaled Hoseini, The Kite Runner
Yann Martel, The Life of Pi
Jay Kopelman, From Baghdad With Love
Non fiction
My Place, Sally Morgan
Angela’s Ashes, Frank McCourt
Infidel, Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Falling Leaves, Adeline yen Mah
Graphic novels and picture books
Memorial, Gary Crew and Shaun Tan
Way Home, Libby Hathorn and Gregory Rogers
My Place, Nadia Wheatley and Donna Rawlins
Belonging, Jeannie Baker
Window, Jeannie Baker
Film
Home Song Stories, dir. Tony Ayers
The December Boys, dir. Rod Hardy
As It Is In Heaven, dir. Kay Pollack
My Life as a Dog, dir. Lasse Halstrom
High Tide, dir. Gillian Armstrong
The Italian, dir. Andrei Kravchuck
Little Miss Sunshine, dir. Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Faris
Look Both Ways, dir. Sarah Watt
Somersault, dir. Cate Shortland
In America, dir. Jim Sheridan
Whale Rider, dir. Niki Caro
Swimming Upstream, dir. Russell Mulcahy
isnt there any more related texts ?
Have you seen our website? Follow this link to find suggestions as you
scroll past the definition of the Area of Study:
http://www.e-rudite.net/belonging.htm. It will be added to over time.
this is really helpful thankss
I hope you’ve checked out our website: http://www.e-rudite.net? And you can email for help whenever you want to ask a question: HSCsupport@gmail.com.
Perhaps this collection on ‘Belonging’ might be useful:
http://www.the-chimaera.com/May2008/
does anyone know any songs to do with the theme belonging for a related text?..
Good question! Think of a singer you like and Google their name plus the word ‘lyrics’. You can go through their song list. But remember some song writers are better than others in terms of what they have to say.
Belonging by Bread.
Oh Father by Madonna
This used to be my playground by Madonna
Don’t cry for me Argentina by Time Rice (You need context here.)
Treaty by Yothu Yindi
Beds are Burning by Midnight Oil
So What by Pink
Stupid Girls by Pink
No Bravery by James Blunt.
would the song “my island home” by christina anu be a good song to use as a related text for belonging?
It’s an excellent choice. I got the lyrics from : http://www.stlyrics.com/songs/c/christinaanu5875/myislandhome233651.html if you need them.
If you want to, you could consider how Anu interprets the lyrics as a singer so that you have a form of intertextuality: lyrics and vocals.
It’s a good choice whatever you do.
Judy
Thank you so much.. I have an assignment and we have to analyze 4 related materials to do with belonging cant they all have to be different types of texts.
what i have so far is
my island home by christina anu
refugee blues by WH Auden
beauty and the beast
and i still need one more
does what i picked so far look appropriate to use?
That’s a pretty solid selection. Which B & B? Disney? The Auden is another excellent choice. Anu is spot on and you get the indigenous message. If it’s Disney it’s not in the same vein.
There was a schools’ publication that may be in your school library about teenage experiences as refugees: ‘Stories from a troubled land’ edited by Sue Cass. The pieces are short but authentic. You seem to be choosing brief.
This next is a multimedia website within the ABC’s website: http://www.abc.net.au/longjourney/index_flash.html. It’s complex enough and being multimedia flashy enough to get you some attention. Not everyone will have it.
This blog has an attached website where we put suggested related material: http://www.e-rudite.net/belonging.htm. Just scroll past the definitions and there’s plenty to choose from.
Next year get yourself one text that has some length (and therefore some depth of thinking and a range of techniques) but I imagine you are pushed for time now.
Our website tries to cover a lot of material and you can always email: HSCsupport@gmail, or blog.
Good luck,
Judy
I’m not sure. I believe the movie “A Beautiful Mind” works well with belonging. I’m looking for another piece and i’m particularly interested in picture books by Shaun Tan. Any suggestions?
You can use ‘A Beautiful Mind’ but it may do ‘journeys’ and ‘change’ slighlty better. It’s certainly a good text and looks at the effects of mental illness and th impact at home and in the workplace. Tan’s ‘The Arrival’ and ‘Tales from suburbia’ are two I can think of. Have a look at our web page that lists possible related material: http://www.e-rudite.net/belonging.htm. Just scroll down the page.
Judy
I need help. My essay topic is “The need to belong to group or a community shapes our behaviour, attitudes and actions.”
Firstly, i don’t understand my essay topic. Secondly, i have to discuss how my prescribed text, The Crucible by Arthur Miller, and one related text, My Island Home by Christine Anu, of my own to support this statement. And thirdly, i don’t understand The Crucible and can’t analyse My Island Home.
I have been working on it for 2 days and am really struggling, it is due in 3 days
Thanks
The question is a formal expression of something you know well: the need for family, friends, good relations with peers and colleagues and neighbours: we need people for all sorts of reasons. In Miller’s play, the group or the community is dominated by religious belief and affected by fearof the unknown and the different. The play looks at an extreme and negativeve effect of the need for people. Sometimes needing people is a positive thing; sometimes negative. Abigail needs power. she draws strength from a group of similarly aged but weak girls and is malicious and Mary, for example, needs the group eve though she knows the truth. similarly the church elders. The power of the community affects choices and therefore behaviour. Proctor who stands apart from the group, his church dominated community, and suffers for his difference. Remeber, Miller wrote about Salem in 1600’s when he was actually referring to a time – 1950’s – in American history when fear of Communism was strong. People nominated others as communist in their sympathies in order to protect themselves.
My Island Home
Six years I�ve been in the city
And every night I dream of the sea
They say home is where you find it
Will this place ever satisfy me
For I come from the salt water people
We always live by the sea
Know I�m down here livin� in the city
With my man and the family
My island home My island home
My island home is waiting for me
My island home My island home
My island home is waiting for me
In the evening the dry wind blows
From the hills and across the plains
I close my eyes and I am standing
In a boat on the sea again
And I�m holding a long turtle spear
And I feel I�m close now to where it must be
My island home is waiting for me
For I come from the salt water people
We always live by the sea
Know I�m down here livin� in the city
With my man and the family
X 3
My island home My island home
My island home is waiting for me
My island home My island home
My island home is waiting for me
This looks at something a bit different: the importance of the community that represents your origins and is ‘home’ with all its connotations of warmth, love, closeness and community. If you live away from ‘home’, whatever that may be, it’s drawing power may affect your choices and behaviour.
Best I can do at the moment but I hope that helps,
Judy
thank you so much. you’re a lifesaver
or would a different text (song) be a better option? because they are so different? i’m not sure what is similar to the crucible?
You can use the song and it shows the depth of your understanding if you can point out the differences. It’s different ways of looking at the concept of belonging: almost a contrast.
the teacher didn’t like my essay. its due wednesday, she told me to start again. got any suggestions for something similar to the crucible?
I desperately need help. I have found 2 alternative texts to use, Refugee blues and Crime and Punishment. I need to find two more but also have to write an oral presentation addressing people at world youth day about an insight into belonging using the namesake and an alternative text, which was going to be W.H.Auden’s poem. I wanted to do something like belonging is a fundamental need of all people, but I don’t know how I would express that using the poem and the novel, and am terrible with techniques. My teacher isn’t allowed to help me and I don’t know what to write. He only told me I need to have an insight into each text that strengthens my overarching argument…whatever that mean.
Finding two more texts is easier. Use this link: http://www.e-rudite.net/belonging.htm . Scroll down; there are lots of choices. If you have a short time frame pick something visual like a picture book or a film. Shaun Tan’s ‘The Arrival’ is excellent.
‘Refugee Blues’ has connections to The Namesake. Both deal with dislocation: Ashok and Ashima on moving from India and Gogol from his Indian background and family. These feelings are common when people make these huge shifts from one country to another or just one city to another.
along with belonging being a fundamental need goes the efforts we make to achieve it and the times when people feel alienated or dislocated. So there are two sides to belonging. Ashok and Ashima begin to belong when they mix with and expatriot Indian community. Gogol finds some sense of belonging when he has to deal with his father’s death and come to terms with who he is and his responsibilities.
Techniques are the HOW the composer has chosen to communicate their meaning. It’s one thing to have the message; it’s another to chose the way you say it/present it. In ‘Refugee Blues’, Auden uses the first person plural “we’ to achieve identification from the reader with his personas in the poem. He offers scenarios to demonstrate the refugees’ dislocation and the fear that their presence arouses. What are some of the other language features in the poem? Chose significant ones, not just the first one you see.The context for this poem is important: German or european refugees around WW2. Who might they be?
Although The Namesake isn’t the same context some of the feelings and fears are similar.
Hope that helps.
Judy
By the way, Crime and Punishment is a very serious choice.
Thank you so much.
Serious in what way? Subject matter or difficulty?
hi judy
just wondering where your located i need an english tutor badly…. im doing advanced and struggling. if you dont tutor can you suggest any one
I do tutor but I’m booked up, Kate. Email me at HSCsupport@gmail.com. I may be able to help you via email amd it’s more private than a blog.
Judy
hey, i was wondering if “Not without Myn daghter” (film would be possible in comparing and contrasting belong with Peter Skrzynecki’s poems.
Yes, I think you can. The idea of family is clear: belonging and not belonging, although the cultural identity is different. It’s not that that matters; just so long as you are aware and can see similarities and differences.
Judy
I am needing to choose several texts for belonging and was wondering whether the film December Boys would be a good one to explore and analyse?
I think The December Boys would be excellent. It’s accessible and just unusual enough to not be chosen by a lot of people which is too your advantage. The issues are appropriate.
hey judy
i have an english assessment due tuesday and i havent hardly started (probley a abad idea) =[
i need to find sources for belonging and ive got the sond by christina anu adn the book atonement by ian mcewan.
i was wondering if the book or the movie for atonement would be better ??
my teacheer told me to make sure i dont look at the atonement more to the point of how briony trys to affiliate herself with cecilia after ruining their relationship but i cant find any quotes on this.. and im startin to panic =[
oh and with the song how does it relate to belonging when i relate witht he other texts.??
thank you so much =]
Hi! iv got to write a speech on belonging and discuss “Belonging is just a state of mind” to a youth welfare conference. My texts are “the Namesake”, “Kite Runner” (movie) and the short story ‘The Family’ in Tim Winton’s “The Turning”. Firstly, I’m having trouble deciding my thesis, weather i agree or not, secondly, analysing and finding the main ideas in each text that would support my thesis.. I know thats alot to ask help for, but i’m really struggling with Advanced and im not allowed to change to general.. Some pointers would be very appriciated..
Thank yu..
Ashok and Ashima make the move to the US and make the most of it for themselves and their family. That is not to say it isn’t difficult assimilating but making friends with Indian ex-patriots helps. Gogol, on the other hand, is US born and doesn’t share their love of India. He is between cultures, if you like: neither Indian nor truly American. It’s his father’s death that is a turning point for him.
The Kite Runner is a very different thing in that class and ethnicity tears people apart within a country, Afghanistan. Amir, like Gogol, finds a way to come to terms with his past. Where Gogol responds to being Indian in America, Amir also has the burden of guilt to deal with.
They are good texts to do because there is the focus on youth – Gogol and Amir – and finding a place for oneself after a period of alienation. I must confess I’m not familiar with The Turning so I can’t help there. I hope that is of some help.
Relationships are central to our sense of belonging.
1. how is this true for one character from the film you hav selected for this task?
2. explain the techniques your film uses to explore the idea that relationships are central to our sense of belonging….
im not sure how to addres the seconds part…wat techniques do i use?
Take Molly. She is the driving force behind the girls running from the mission and the perseverance it takes for them to get back home – almost all of them.
Techniques means how does the film show this: framing of scenes, pace of scenes. I’m not on my usual computer but I’ll send you a worksheet I did for another purpose that may help with this film. It’s for RPF and the questions etc may give you some direction.
If I think of the scenes where the kids are taken by the police, longs shots show the police scuffling to get the kids and shove them in their car but the pace slows to show Molly’s quiet depair through the window looking back to her mother/home – mid shot to close up?. Contrast that with her mother’s visible and audible distress. Long shot? This clearly shows a family being broken up – a sense of belonging disrupted violently. A section of Molly leading the girls Gracie and Daisy will show a difference between Molly and the younger girls in terms of focus. Molly is frequently shown focusing her vision along the line of the fence which indicates her intention to follow the fence to home irrespective of the difficulties.
Hope that helps. I’ll send the other stuff, probably tomorrow. Email me with any questions,
Judy
hey
i have an asessment due ext week for adv english and its 25% of my hsc i was just wondering if you think that “migrant hostel”, “post card” and ancestors” by feliks skryznecki tye in well with “Refugee blues” by A.H auden?
it would be greatly apreciated if you could help because im struggling really bad and dont know any techniques or anything about A.h auden
Refugee Blues is a classic poem and the people in Skrzynecki’s poems are refugees. That said you don’t have to have exact links between texts, just a means of examining how composers represent the concepts around belonging. The sense of isolation, sadness etc are common to your poems and Auden. Migrant hostel highlights how these people are treated. Post Card deals with pride in the home country but also the disconnection of feeling between one generation and the other because of experiences. Here’s some stuff to get you going. email HSCsupport@gmail.com if you want more help,
Judy
from http://www.thepoetryhunter.com
Refugee Blues
Say this city has ten million souls,
Some are living in mansions, some are living in holes:
Yet there’s no place for us, my dear, yet there’s no place for us. think Migrant Hostel; use of first person plural makes it more intimate
Once we had a country and we thought it fair,
Look in the atlas and you’ll find it there:
We cannot go there now, my dear, we cannot go there now. use of repetition: wistful; sad
In the village churchyard there grows an old yew, symbolic references to new life
Every spring it blossoms anew:
Old passports can’t do that, my dear, old passports can’t do that. memory; repetition for sadness and regret and loss; passport symbolises identity
The consul banged the table and said,
“If you’ve got no passport you’re officially dead”: behaviour and statement add drama
But we are still alive, my dear, but we are still alive. question of ifentity; repitition stresses the reality and the absurdity of passport as symbol of identity/existence
Went to a committee; they offered me a chair;
Asked me politely to return next year: represents lack of reality from officials
But where shall we go to-day, my dear, but where shall we go to-day? repetition stresses urgency
Came to a public meeting; the speaker got up and said;
“If we let them in, they will steal our daily bread”:
He was talking of you and me, my dear, he was talking of you and me.
Thought I heard the thunder rumbling in the sky; metaphor for sounds of war
It was Hitler over Europe, saying, “They must die”:
O we were in his mind, my dear, O we were in his mind. suggests regugees are jewish
Saw a poodle in a jacket fastened with a pin,
Saw a door opened and a cat let in:
But they weren’t German Jews, my dear, but they weren’t German Jews.
Went down the harbour and stood upon the quay,
Saw the fish swimming as if they were free:
Only ten feet away, my dear, only ten feet away.
Walked through a wood, saw the birds in the trees;
They had no politicians and sang at their ease:
They weren’t the human race, my dear, they weren’t the human race.
Dreamed I saw a building with a thousand floors,
A thousand windows and a thousand doors:
Not one of them was ours, my dear, not one of them was ours.
Stood on a great plain in the falling snow;
Ten thousand soldiers marched to and fro:
Looking for you and me, my dear, looking for you and me.
WH Auden
or i was now thinking about robert frost, “mending wall”
what do you think
which is the most suitable for the concept of belonging and i can write the most interesting things about
im so confused! any help at all would be great
and i would be extremley greatful for your time
I hope that poem showed up with the comments to the side, otherwise it may be a mess. If not email me and I’ll make it a document.
“Mending Wall” deals with the walls we place between us: migrants isolated in hostels, young men who haven’t their parents’ experiences and therefore can’t identify in the same way with another country and their experiences. I think Auden would serve you better because the connection is more obvious and you say you are having problems. It’s an excellent poem but it’s more direct.
Judy
I really need a related text for belonging AOS essay. I was thinking the song “the poet and the pendulum” by nightwish. do you think this is a good related text? it has lots of context but i’m not sure if it will work
I think the song is sufficiently abstract for its meaning to be less than suffieciently explicit. It does refer to belonging style issues – take me home – and it does have techniques for you to discuss. It also has enough verses for you to latch onto enough to use it, however it’s not the clearest set of lyrics in terms of meaning, to my way of thinking. It’s up to you. http://www.e-rudite.net/belonging has lists of suggestions including song lyrics although I don’t generally recommend song lyrics because overall they tend to be slight in terms of an argument eg belonging and the techniques are not always sophisticated eg repetition in the form of a chorus. Poetry is better – stronger meaning and techniques.
The reason I wanted to do “the poet and the pendulum” is because it has lots of context that I can easily break down. I am already doing two poems by Peter Skryznecki and the merchant of venice by Shakespeare. I need a forth related. Would “the lovely bones” by alice seabold be a good choice if the song doesn’t fit with my other related materials?
Hey. I need help!
Task: “It is effective use of language that helps create distincitve voices in texts.”
I have to write a formal speech answering the above question. In your speech you must refer to two speeches you have studies and one piece of supplimentary material.
The speeches we have studied are:
1) Martin Luther King, Jr. ‘I have a dream’
2) Severn Cullis-Suzuki. ‘Address to the Plenary Session, Earth Summit.
3) John F Kennedy. ‘Inaugural Address’
4) Jessie Street. ‘Is it to be back to the kitchen?’
5) 9th Earl Spencer. ‘Eulogy for Princess Diana’.
6) Indira Ganghi, Prime Minister of India. ‘The true liberation of women’.
Can anyone give me any hints or ideas?
You need to choose two speeches and examine the use of rhetorical language. Good speeches are examples of ‘rhetoric’ or the craft of speech making and all these speeches are good in their own way. This link should take you to a page that will give you another link to a deconstruction of Martin Luther King: http://www.e-rudite.net/speeches_deconstruction.htm. If it doesn’t, get back to me.
This link will give you information your teacher probably has given you in some form: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetoric .
I have decided to do Martin Luther King and John F Kennedy as my 2 speeches and then was just wondering whether ‘Troy’ the movie with Brad Pitt be a good supp material that relates to the 2 speeches?
MLK and JFK are good choices. What is the connection with ‘Troy’ however? Leadership? Has it got good speeches to make connections to? (‘Gladiator’ is a better quality film.) Do you need transcripts of speeches to submit/work with? Whatever you choose, you need to make sure there are rhetorical features as there are with the two you’ve chosen.
Hi Judy,
i have to prepare and present a film analysis to the class. my topic is Module B: distinctively visual.
the text i have chosen is ‘pirates of the caribbean, the curse of the black pearl (the first movie).
i need to explain the ideas and/or feelings that the composer is presenting. i also need to analyse the visual film techniques used to convey these ideas and feelings to the responder and assess their appropriateness in terms of the director’s purpose. i also need to consider the audio techniques in terms of how they enhance or complement the visual techniques.
any ideas? i have finished half of it but i dont have enough visual techniques. i want to talk about the lighting but dont know where to start. what are the themes and how are they portrayed?
thanks mahli
ok so i have chosen those two speeches and now i changed the material supp to Braveheart.
That sounds a lot better. A much stronger film.
This link will take you to an online version of the script: http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Braveheart.html . It’s sometimes handy to have the words in front of you and you can make notes on it.
Hi Judy!
i have my half yearly exam on monday in a weeks time and ia m freaking out! i ahevn’t thought of any good ideas for a short story on belonging and i just got my essay back and i got 9/15 so basically i suck! can you please help me! my 2 related texts are refugee blues and gattaca and my core is romulus but i just cant seem to link them together! help please!
thankyou so much!!!!!
I don’t believe you suck, for starters. Short story: I recommend taking your own esperience even if you don’t write it up that way. You know belonging: family, friends, identity, self esteem. You can take something you know, either directly or indirectly, and work it into a story about belonging. If you’re doing romulus, you have a great example on drawing on experience.
‘Refugee Blues’ and ‘Gattaca’, deal with belonging in different ways: being Jewish pre WW2 and a futuristic version of identity.
Look for the core issues in Romulus: family, friendship, community and find the links. The links may be similar but the links can also be about difference. So ‘Gattaca’ deals with a futuristic society driven by scientific and technological advances, but the issues of fitting in and not fitting in still apply even if the experience isn’t technically that of the migrant.
Get back to me if you want more,
Judy
I am doing ‘The devils wear prada’ My speech topic is – Relationships are central to our sense of belonging.
1. how is this true for one character from the film you have selected for this task?
2. explain the techniques your film uses to explore the idea that relationships are central to our sense of belonging.
i don’t really get the how is this related to my movie and techniques that related.
The choice of movie isn’t the best for ‘belonging’, entertaining as it is and I actually love it.
You can focus on the boyfriend and/or on the main character. The boyfriend is interesting in that he becomes quite threatened by the shift in their relationship caused by the pressures of working for Miranda. The principal character doesn’t belong to her new world but goes through a process of adaptation, ultimately making a moral decision for self/career. Miranda, by contrast does belong, but the latter parts of the film show she recognises another world and the cost of being Miranda to self, career and family. The Emily Blunt character shows the desperation to ‘belong’. Whatever/whoever you choose to talk about, choose a key scene and deconstruct it for film techniques. The boyfriend’s birthday; Miranda’s recogntion in the cab; the decision to leave ‘Runway’ magazine (I hope I got the name right). I hope that helps. Get back to me if you need to, Judy
any suggestion for 2 related texts i could use on belonging in relations the the themes in “as you like it” by shakespeare. i was thinking of focusing on country vs city so change of seeting and identity to do with gender roles. thanx
Henry Lawson, “The Drover’s Wife” a short story that deals with a woman on her own in the country. Henry Lawson’s short stories should be useful. Early episodes of ‘Seachange’, the TV series deal with the shift and the impact of the city to seaside move. ‘Bed of Roses, an ABC series from last year also deals with these issues and the gender issues. You could rent both of those. The movie ‘Tootsie’ does gender and gender bending very well, even today. Drusilla Modeska, a Sydney writer, wrote ‘Inner Cities’ about urban experiences. Australian poets like Les Murray and Robert Gray deal with the city/country divide. An Australian film, ‘Beneath Clouds’, deals with teenagers who leave the country in the hope of better things in the city. It also has aboriginal themes and is an excellent film.
At short notice, that’s all I can offer. Let me know what you prescribed text and I may be able to be more helpful, Judy
see that’s the thing. there is no prescribed text and its about belonging, its focus area is module B: distinctively visual. i know you help with mostly belonging but i really need help with this one
Mahli, you’re talking about two completely separate modules. Area of Study is Belonging and it has a prescribed text.
Module B is a completely different module and it has a completely separate prescribed text.
Send me a list of all the texts you have been given to study in English and I’ll work it all out for you.
I know it’s confusing. Just send me your text list,
Judy
YOU ARE A LIFE SAVER!
thank you so much
Oooooh! that’s nice.
Judy
truley!
Don’t forget I’m here. Can’t amswer absolutely everyhting but I’ll try. Have a good weekend,
Judy
hey,
i have my half-yealy adv english exams at the end of this week and found out the quotes ive been memorising from the Crucible are totally irrelevant.
for the area of study (belonging) our prescribed text is ‘the crucible’ and my related text is “my sisters keeper” by jodi picoult.
i really need some help with some relevant quotes from each texts please, especially the crucible.
also, what techniques does miller use to create meaning and the concept of belonging in the play?
thankyou so much for your help! x
Miller’s play deals with a warped concept of belonging: girls bound together through fear of being found out and fear of their ‘leader’, Abigail. You’re looking here at the multiplying of lies that are designed to protect, the strength of one ruthless girl and the power she has over others. Probably a contrast is the Proctor family – divided when we meet them, by Abigail, the impact of Abigail’s lies actually brings them back together. Proctor stands up for elizabeth and he for her and Proctor stands by what he believes, even though that separates him from the religious community. Remember, the play represents theMcCarthy trials in the 1950’s, a similar situation of lies forced through fear for self.
One of Miller’s techniques is to write a political commentary on a current situation by writing about a more remote but similar situation in america’s history – the Salem withc trials.
Other techniques: the role Abigail has in modelling behaviour for the frightened girls; Proctor as a tragic hero for standing up for his beliefs; the role of Mary Warren as a character who momentarily sees the truth but reverts because of fear. The characters represent kinds of people; the numbers of accused are concentrated to the small community presented in the play. Millers prose passages give the reader of the play (not in this case the audience) additional information that gives a much fuller context to characters’ behaviour and to the background of the community.
I can’t do quotes at the moment but I’ll get back to you,
Judy
With the Crucible the quotes here aren’t a big help of you don’t have a good grasp of the play. There’s nothing to say these are the best. Also look at how often the words ‘fear’ or ‘frightened’ are used. This emotion shapes the concept of ‘belonging’ in the play.
p 15 describes the values of the Salem community and what guided them – “They believed …”
p. 30 Betty’s fear enables Abigail to use her as she does all the girls
p. 35 My followers! – Proctor does not truly belong; this is an early reference that will escalate
p. 35 ‘I like not the smell of this ‘authority’.
p. 49 – 50 the power of abigail to use the group of girls; the chant effect of ‘I saw …’
p. 63 Proctor on not going to Church on the Sabbath; ‘I surely did come when I could, and when I could not I prayed in this house.’
p. 65 Hale on the srtict demands of the church: “Theology, sir, is a fortresss; not crack in a fortress may be accounted small.’
p. 72 ‘I’ll tell you what’s walking Salem – vengeance is walking Salem.’
p.104 ‘Abby, Abby, I’ll never hurt you more.’ mary Warren caves in to /abigail’s pressure on the girls to support her version of events.
Hey guys !
IM STRESSSING ! i desperatley need help with looking for a Non fiction text for related material, im particulary looking for any newspaper articles, biography and autobiography for it. So if any suggestions please help !
Another thing ; I have chosen for creative text the novel The diary of Ann Frank, im sure most of use know the novel, im just abit concerned if it has any relevance to belonging =\ i need help ! lol
thanks
Anne Frank is about belonging: being German, being Jewish, being a member of a close family, having friends. It’s also about isolation because of discrimination.
Is the related material for Belonging? It isn’t clear.
Australian Story has programme transcripts from all their programmes on their website: http://www.abc.net.au. It’s a programme that deals with people: some ordinary; some famous, but all have achieved in some way.
Your school library may have a copy of peter Skyrznecki’s Joseph’s Coat an anthology on multiculturalism. You will find something in there: short story. poem, reflection.
There are many suggestions at http://www.e-rudite.net/belonging.
Hope that helps.
Anne Frank is on of my related materials for belonging for a creative text. Thanks so much for that bit of info it really has helped so far!
I have also chosen a movie called Riding In Car With Boys for my visual text. Its about a younge 15 year old girl who falls pregnant and forced into marriage , she doesnt feel like she belongs because shes a young mother, this is all set in the 60s – 70s so imagine falling pregnant at those times!
Now i jsut need to find my last related text. Thanks alot for your help!!!!!!!
Hey i really really need to find 2 strong related texts for the Joy luck club on belonging. I dont want to use Shaun Tan because everyone is?
Any suggestions?
thanks
I’m assuming this is for an exam so the recommendations are quick to deal with but they are also good quality. You could use Adeline Yen Mah’s Chinese Cinderellawhich is autobiography, adapted for children. Peter Skryznecki has edited an anthology of multicultural writing, ‘Joseph’s Coat’ which may be in your school library or local library. I like Sarah Turnbull’s ‘Almost French’ about a journalist following her boyfriend to France and the problems she had adjusting. It’s a true story and very easy to read.
There’s Jeannie Baker’s ‘Belonging’ a wonderful Australian picture book. Or Libby Hathorn’s ‘Way Home’.
If you go to http://www.e-rudite.net/belonging and scroll down there are lots of suggestions to choose from.
Hi Judy the message from ‘Mads’ on March 22 really sounds like me, you said you would get back to her again, i was just wondering if you have and weather you could please forward it me. thanks
mahli. I had to get my copy of the text which is why I haven’t responded. will get back to you and mads tomorrow – Thursday.
Mahli, this is the response you wanted.
With the Crucible the quotes here aren’t a big help of you don’t have a good grasp of the play. There’s nothing to say these are the best. Also look at how often the words ‘fear’ or ‘frightened’ are used. This emotion shapes the concept of ‘belonging’ in the play.
p 15 describes the values of the Salem community and what guided them – “They believed …”
p. 30 Betty’s fear enables Abigail to use her as she does all the girls
p. 35 My followers! – Proctor does not truly belong; this is an early reference that will escalate
p. 35 ‘I like not the smell of this ‘authority’.
p. 49 – 50 the power of abigail to use the group of girls; the chant effect of ‘I saw …’
p. 63 Proctor on not going to Church on the Sabbath; ‘I surely did come when I could, and when I could not I prayed in this house.’
p. 65 Hale on the srtict demands of the church: “Theology, sir, is a fortresss; not crack in a fortress may be accounted small.’
p. 72 ‘I’ll tell you what’s walking Salem – vengeance is walking Salem.’
p.104 ‘Abby, Abby, I’ll never hurt you more.’ mary Warren caves in to /abigail’s pressure on the girls to support her version of events.
thanks so much judy. a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders
hey guys !
does anyone have the link to a photo of a jewish man with a yellow star on hes jacket? i desperatley need it for belonging. I found it a couple of days ago on one of these belonging websites im looking for it everywhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so if anyone has any ideaplease help =(
thanks xoxoxo
i need helpp =(
i have to write about the “i have a dream” speech by martin luther king and how it relates to belonging. but im honestly stuck, any advice?
The speech demonstrated the need for black American solidarity to achieve a sense of ‘belonging’ in the United States whe M L King made the speech. It was so significant to the civil rights movement! King is calling black Americans to unite to achieve equal rights/belonging in their own country.
Scroll through this page to get general notes on King: http://www.e-rudite.net/speeches.htm
And this to get a deconstruction of the speech for techniques: http://www.e-rudite.net/speeches_deconstruction.htm
Get back to me if you have other questions.
Judy,
Just reading this forum has been a massive help though I do have a few questions of my own!
I have my exam this week and, being the master of procrastination, have not decided on my related texts.
My prescribed text is Arthur Miller’s ‘The Crucible’ and I would like to have 3 related texts, preferable in different means.
Possibilities are:
Film; Finding Forrester, Breakfast at Tiffanies.
Fiction; ‘The Drover’s Life’ Henry Lawson, ‘Nineteen Eighty-Four’ George Orwell, or “To Kill a Mockingbird’.
Lyrics; ‘My Island Home’ Christina Anu
Poem; ‘Refugee Blues’ WH Auden.
The only one I have really decided on is Refugee Blues, but I am unsure of how to link this, and any of the others, to Belonging, and more specifically the Crucible.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
x
The Auden is a good one. Better than Anu. I don’t think song lyrics are the best in that they generally don’t have particularly complex techniques and the ability to recognise and deconstruct techniques will make for better marks. Cynical but that’s how it is.
Finding Forrester is probably better than Breakfast at Tiffany’s. Lawson is good but Harper Lee’s To Kill a Mockingbird is better. In fact, Harper Lee is a really strong choice: the racial prejudice matches the discrimination in Miller. The sense of belonging/not belonging that revolves around Jem and Scout as opposed to Boo Radley. With Auden and Miller, you have an excellent selection and three different text types. If you want an easier text to grapple with, use Finding Forrester.
Thank you for the feedback. It’s a big help to know this is useful.
Judy
Judy, this site is amazing. I’m a first time Y12 teacher and am constantly searching for resources. Our prescribed text is Stephen Herrick’s The Simple Gift and my class has just done their assessment task on it. Any info or directions you could offer, however, would be greatly appreciated for the half yearly exam coming up soon. I’ll tell my class about the site tomorrow.
Thank you,
Fiona.
Thanks, Fiona, for the feedback. It’s much appreciated! Stephen Herrick? I’ll have a look into him for you. HSC Online is pretty good but last time I looked relative to the changes in the Prescripitions there wasn’t much up there, although Herrick isn’t new.
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I’m looking for two extra texts for Charles Dicken’s ‘Great Expectation’. Do you know of any articles that would be relevent to this form of belonging, like the desire to belong or social status as a stimulus for belonging? i’m thinking of linking the texts to ‘Remember the Titans’…. or even ‘Refugee Blues’
Anyway, i would be grateful for any help that I can get!
Thanks
The Auden poem is good and a number of students have said they are doing ‘Titans’. You don’t have to match Dickens, just be able to discuss belonging and, in the best of all possible worlds, make connections: parallels or contrasts.
Hi Judy,
I seem to have a knack for choosing unsupported texts … Do you have any info/links for Mark Haddon’s “The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night”? This is for our Close Study of Text unit, starting Term 2.
Thanks, Fiona.
Hi Judy,
As my related text, i’m thinking of choosing the diary of Anne Frank.
Do you think it has similarities/differences between Peter Skrzynecki’s poems or Billy Elliot?
Thanks (:
I think it’s a good choice. Peter Skrzynecki’s poems show a different perspective on the European war experience but the humanity is shared and both are refugees of a sort. Billy and his friend share being different: interests-ballet- and gender-transexual- with Anne Frank – Jewish. The necessity to adapt lifestyle to circumstances is probably common to all texts. I’m assuming the poems are your prescribed text?
Judy
Anne Frank looks at the European war experience from a different perspective but it’s humanity is a shared quality. All three texts deal with difference: Anne Frank – Jewish; Billy Elliot – interests and transgender issues. All these children must adapt to difficult circumstances and question themselves for being different. This brings in issues of identity and self esteem. Which is the prescribed text: the poems? Billy elliot is a prescribed text in a module and it isn’t the best idea to use another prescribed text as related material. markers want to see you choosing texts and engaging with them – initiative.
Hi Judy,
im doing “my sisters keeper” by jodi picolut and i don’t seem to be getting much progress in analysing this text. Other than the fact that the girl doesn’t feel like she belongs in her family and instead feels like a tool for her sister in the novel, i dont know what else i can say about the novel (especially in the middle and end). I was wondering if you had any notes or links that could aid be in anakysing this text?
thankyou .
What is your prescribed text? That may help me to help you. It may also be possible that you will need to choose another text. It’s not worth hanging on to a text if it doesn’t do the job for you ie connect to belonging and to your prescribed text. Belonging is about relationships – positive and negative – and self esteem and identity. Looking at your definition of the concept may help you to get more out of the book.
Illnesses like leukemia in children cause all sort of disruptions to the family, re-evaluation of self and others etc which is all part of belonging. There’s also the idea of physically leaving the home for long periods of treatment in hospital.
That said, these may help. There are questions for reading groups which may give you some pointers to think about.
Jodi Picoult’s website: http://www.jodipicoult.com/my-sisters-keeper.html
Relationships: http://www.jodipicoult.com/
Discussion guides: http://www.readinggroupguides.com/guides3/my_sisters_keeper1.asp
Hi
i’m thinking of choosing The diary of Anne Frank as my related text, what kind of belongings level does it have?
Please help me.
Thank you
Anne Frank is about belonging to family, to self and to your country and your faith. It’s about identity and self esteem through relations with others. It’s a strong choice. Rather than obviously dealing with belonging in a positive sense it looks at the strength these people have in the face of quite extraordinary persecution.
What is your prescribed text? That would help me to help you.
Is the Gettsburg Address by Abraham Lincoln a good supplemenatry text?
I was just wondering how does Window – Jeannie Baker relate to belonging? and Strictly Ballroom?
and how would i asnwer this question?
How does the language of your piece of stimulus material (Window – Jeannie Baker) convey meaning, and develop your understanding of the concept, Belonging?
Thanks.
I think it’s a case of finding another text I’m afraid because it’s not a good ‘fit’. You need something which has common ground with ‘Strictly Ballroom’. Try:
Peter Goldsworthy ‘Maestro’
J D Salinger ‘Catcher in the Rye’
Paul Gallico ‘The Snow Goose’
Louis Sacher ‘Holes’
Li Cunxin ‘Mao’s Last Dancer’ (autobiography, abridged version and picture book)
Try this link for a very extensive list: http://www.e-rudite.net/belonging.htm and scroll down to the suggestions. Remeber you have to find a different text type to ‘Strictly Ballroom’ – film.
I havent read anyone of them, but how does “Mao’s Last Dancer” related to Strictly Ballroom?
Ta
It’s about finding what you’re passionate about and being successful at it. The girl in ‘Strictly Ballroom’ loves dance and it brings out the best in her, builds her self esteem and allows her to develop an identity, finding where she belongs and with whom.
‘Mao’s Last Dancer’ is a true story. Li pursued dance. He had to defect from China to pursue dance and was highly successful. His story is also about a strengthening of purpose and identity. He lives in Melbourne and the book is being turned into a movie.
Both texts have dance as athe centre of the action but you have personalities that find themselves and establish their identity and build their self esteem on their achievements which is what you want.
‘Mao’s Last Dancer’’s available in an abridged version (and therefore much shorter) and probably in your school or local library. It’s also a picture book but it may not provide the detail you need. It’s art work isn;t particularly strong. But it’s a story that tells itself.
Thank you, i dont think i have time to go borrow it, because my assignment is due tomorrow, i have three questions to asnwer.
How does the piece of stimulus material relate to Belonging?
How does the piece of stimulus material relate to your prescribed text?
How does the language of your piece of stimulus material convey meaning, and develop your understanding of the concept, Belonging?
But i think from what you have written i can come up with something.
Thank you!
hey i was just wandering if you could help me link the poem ‘ancestors’ by peter skzrynecki to the speech by sir william deane at the opening of the centenary of federation exhibition.
thanks a million
hi. i was just wondering if you could help me with relating this poem ‘belonging’ with to the crucible.
Belonging:
Some people are born where they belong,
Their home and family supply all needs:
The glow of earthlight waxes strong
The call of the wider world recedes.
And some search long but never find
A spot where they can set up base
At last they must become resigned
To moving on from place to place
And some again, the lucky few
Are urged to leave, and to seek out
An individual rendezvous
With love’s whisper or fame’s shout
Belonging is a state of mind
Tranquillity its foremost fruit
Sought by all, but many find
It cannot grow without a root
Have I answered the question enough?
Actually this isn’t ‘My Island Home’. Apologies. Yes you can use this. Who’s the author?
The poem/lyric looks at categories or sorts of belonging in each verse and then defines belonging. There is a nice image in V1. V3 uses a good series of references to those who explore and that is their belonging. A strong natural reference/image in V4 – fruit/root – to convey the significance of a sense of belong.
hey judy, i was just wondering what does “I Have a Dream” speech have to do with Belonging and the flim “Strictly Ballroom” ?
Hey is it ok if you help me by seeing how the poem Belonging could relate to the crucible. and how does the picture book ‘the island’ relates to belonging and also to the crucible. =] thank you
Belonging:
Some people are born where they belong,
Their home and family supply all needs:
The glow of earthlight waxes strong
The call of the wider world recedes.
And some search long but never find
A spot where they can set up base
At last they must become resigned
To moving on from place to place
And some again, the lucky few
Are urged to leave, and to seek out
An individual rendezvous
With love’s whisper or fame’s shout
Belonging is a state of mind
Tranquillity its foremost fruit
Sought by all, but many find
It cannot grow without a root
You can use this but it’s not that strong. A song lyric will not have the complex language techniques that make a difference. Also there’s limited depth to the expression of the idea because a song is relatively short. Certtainly compared to the play.
That said, My Island Home’ is about belonging and home and is a psotive song. It contrasts in many ways to ‘The Crucible’. If you use it, you need to make that distinction when you’re discussing ‘belonging’.
Go to http://www.e-rudite.net/belonging.htm and scroll down for other suggestions. There are poems that are stronger than a lyric.
‘I have a dream’ is about a sense of national identity, of being American even though King and others were black. It comes from the time in the 1960s and 1970s when Black Americans were fighting for equality. King made that very powerful and influentiaol speech as a part of that campaign.
The belonging is not truly the same but there is Fran’s need to belong – to the dance group, a relationship, and there is the Black American need to belong – in the country they were often born in and lived in.
The connections don’t need to be identical but you need to be able to work it so there is a point where there is common ground eg identity: personal and national or cultural.
i need help with my speech. i need to know how to analyse a related text?? and i’m doing remember the titans as a related text but cant describe how it relates to belonging??
‘Remember the Titans’ is about community and race: being black and not belonging because of colour and the qualities and steps that enable to others to appreciate the individual rather than race, therefore enabling their belonging. I hope that’s clear. But what is your prescribed text because, in the best of all possible worlds, you need to connect to that too.
You will probably have to refer to techniques used to convey belonging (or alienation). with a film, that’s visual techniques.
Hey,
I’ve got this assingment on belonging and my prescribed text is romulus my father, I have to find 3 related texts on belonging and link them to romulus.. Any possible text suggestions? If so can you email them to me.. It would be muchly appreciated =)
Hi Dannielle,
There’s a lot of suggestions on http://www.e-rudite.net/belonging.htm.
To link to Romulus My Father, I’d suggest:
Shaun Tan, The Arrival (picture book)
Adeline Yen Mah, Chinese Cinderella (abridged) or Falling Leaves (unabridged)
Anne Frank, The Diary of Anne Frank
Janet Frame, An Angel at My Table
W H Auden, ‘Refugee Blues’ (poem – can be downloaded from the internet)
Judith Wright, ‘Brothers and Sisters’ (poem – try the library)
Robert Frost, ‘The Mending Wall’ (poem – downloadable)
Ivan Sen, Beneath Clouds (film)
Louis Nowra, Radiance (play – try the library)
Libby Hathorn, Way Home (picture book)
Jeannie baker, Belonging (picture book)
I hope that helps,
Judy
hey judy, i was just wandering if you could suggest some related material for the movie run lola run.
thank you!
The http://www.e-rudite.net/belonging has a lot of suggestions but for that text try:
The Kite Runner by Khaled Husseini (novel)
The Life of Pi by Yann Martel (novel)
Benjamin Zephaniah, Refugee Boy (young adult fiction)
Infidel, Ayaan Hirsi Ali (autobiography)
Way Home, Libby Hathorn and Gregory Rogers (picture book)
I used the theme of outsiders (the law in the case of the film) for these suggestions.
I hope this helps. Get back to me if you want more/different,
Judy
thanks a lot judy!
Hi, i was hoping you could help me i am doing the crucible and received an alright mark for my essay on belonging with 2 other related texts but i think i may change them, checkers by John Marsden and raising helen the film but i dont feel that they work in my essay. what would be some suitable ones to relate to the crucible?
i was thinking december boys the film and possibly a speech by barak obama or martin lurther king. how would these fit?
your help would be greatly appreciated thank you!
I think that’s a better way to go because they are more serious texts. The Crucible is a classic of modern American literature and written about a very scarey time in America. A little bit of the trick is to present yourself as a serious minded student. However much Raising Helen might be a good movie and it does have serious issues, it is lighter than the December Boys and more commercial. John Marsden is young adult fiction (Year 8 – 10) which you are now past really. Barack Obama is very current and a good speaker. A good choice. HSCOnline has some good material on what to look for in a speech. If you can’t find it, let me know.
hey i was just wondering if you can think of any possible links between December Boys and “As You Like It” in regard to the concept of Belonging?
thanks!
Look at the effect of new environments and new experiences on the principal characters. To go from one environment to another affects a sense of identity and self esteem and then there’s the new friendships/relationships etc that one makes. You won’t find exactness but look for similarities and differences.
hey Judy, i have this question i have to answer for my essay but the problem is i don’t really know how to approach it/start it off. My text is briar rose and the question is ‘Explore the ways in which Yolen has woven many strands into her story of the Berlin family. How effectively has she done this?’
thanks a lot
help! i got trouble to analysis the poem drifter by bruce dawe and the song my island home by christina anu. pls help me to analysis this two about the concept of belonging and the assumption underlying. tq
This poem focus on a family that moves frequently so they are a family unit but without a permanent home which means there is change to deal with – places, people etc – and the idea of what it means to belong, to have an identity and the things that define identity like friends as well as family, peers and possessions. You’ll notice each person has a different reaction.
Among techniques are:
the use of ‘and’ to move to the next person, accumulating a series of responses to the ’start packing’
a mix of happiness and sadness – what words tell you this
focus on the wife “she” in the second half and the impact on her, again using the ‘and’ as a part of listing
the last line: leaves things up in the air as to what the wish might be
The Anu song is about ethnic identity and the importance of going ‘home’ to that place that is a significant part of your identity.
Techniques:
the use of a refrain
contrast between city and ‘island home’
use of nature in describing places
Thanks a lot. Besides that,i also have trouble to write about the assumption underlying in the song my island home. I would be muchly appreciated if any suggestion is given.
hey judy i was just wandering if you could suggest some related material for educating rita
thanks a million
Julie, try -
Films: The Black Balloon or Juno or Milk
Books: Eat Pray Love by Elizabeth Gilbert
A Child Called It by Dave Pelzer
My Place by Sally Morgan
I hope that helps.
okay thanks a lot judy!
hey judy
this forum is givin me ideas but im not sure what 2 do where n how
lyk im doing peter shcrizneki (if thats how u spell it) for my set text but im not sure what i should use of his content. .
And i havent chosen any related texts, so it will be real kind of you to recommend me a few
thanks alot appreciate it
Hi Ahmed,
Peter Skrzynecki (I hope I’ve got it right. You need to get it right for assignments and exams) is a good text because he deals with issues of migrant experience that a lot of students’ families have in some way experienced. What you use is often decided by the questions. Some poems will answer some questions better than others. You need to know them all but you will have some you like better than others.
Related material isn’t too hard for this because there’s a lot of material dealing with related issues available. You need another text type and you need two pieces of related material.
Novels: Abdel-Fattah, Randa, Does my head look big in this
Maureen McCarthy, The In Between series
Films: The Kite Runner
Gran Torino
Footy Legends
Picture books: The Arrival by shaun Tan
Newspapers have articles on the weekend in their magazines and they will often have something on migrant experience and growing up. The ABC has an excellent website where they put the transcripts of their shows up and their are podcasts and vodcast which might appeal to you.
Let me know if you want more information,
Judy
Hi Judy, you have a wonderful website that has helped me quite alot in my search for related materials. Could I get you opinion on the suitability of ‘The Lovely Bones’ by Alice Sebold and ‘Stand By Me’ (film) directed by Rob Reiner as related texts for ‘As You Like It’? Thank you so much if you could
Hello Judy.
Your website has been such a great help. I was wondering whether ‘The Lovely Bones’ by Alice Sebold and ‘Stand by Me’ directed by Rob Reiner are suitable supplementary texts for ‘As You Like It’. Thank you so much!
It’s all fine! And I’m glad the sight is a help.
‘Stand by me’ is fine because you have that group dynamic that you have in ‘As You Like It’ and the inter-relationships which examine belonging and alienation, identity and so on. It’s also a great film. ‘The Lovely Bones’ does it slightly differently with one member of the family removed in a way. It’s also a great novel. The short answer is yes.
Remember, your aren’t looking for exact correlations just points of similarity and contrast.
Judy,
I was browsing over previous posts,
on the post (7), you’ve said that “So What by Pink” can be used as a related text for belonging.
Can you briefly analyse this song?
Thanks a lot
‘So What’ reflects the end of her marriage, or so she thought, to Corey Hart. It has the anger that the break -up entailed and is really an examination of a sense of loss: the belonging the marriage generated, the self esteem and identity involved as well as finding a new sense of who she is or ‘belonging’.
You need to look at structure and language techniques as well. However, although I’ve listed the song because of requests, I don’t really recommend lyrics because they can be limited in the techniques and can be slight in meaning. This one is better than some.
Hey Judy!
i was wondering whether “catcher in the rye” is a good related text for “heat and dust”. Thanks in advance!
‘Catcher’ is very much about belonging and you probably can tie the two together in the search for identity. Check with your teacher because if you do Salinger, you are doing two novels and they like you to choose different text types. ‘Catcher’ isn’t a film to my knowledge. This 2002 film, Igby Goes Down, may suit you and would be in DVD stores. Another is Finding Forrester from 2000. http://www.imdb.com is a good place to go for plot summaries to see if you might choose one of them.
Judy,
I was just wondering if you could think of any texts that related to As You Like It and December Boys? Preferebaly a poem, short story or a song?
Thanks a lot
If you are going for the group dynamic as a link for belonging, try the short story that became the film, ‘Stand By Me’: Stephen King’s ‘The Body’. It’s not too long and it’s a good read. There’s ‘Catcher in the Rye’ or ‘For Esme with Love and Squalor’ by J D Salinger.
I answered this in a post (because the comment disappeared unexpectedly – my ineptitude) in the hope you’d see it. Glad you asked again. Get back to me if you want more.
If you are going for the group dynamic as a link for belonging, try the short story that became the film, ‘Stand By Me’: Stephen King’s ‘The Body’. It’s not too long and it’s a good read. You could also try ‘Catcher in the Rye’ por ‘For Esme with Love and Squalor’ by J D Salinger. Let me know if you want more.
I lost the original comment because of my ineptitude and answered in a post in the hope you’d see it. Gald you got back to me.
hi again,
I haven’t been able to find the book “the body” anywhere and there doesn’t seem to be any information on it on the internet.
I was just wondering if you thought The Story of Tom Brennan could go well with As You Like It and December Boys?
Thanks again
hi, right now I am doing Maestro by Peter Goldsworthy. I do not see any Australian vision and how the language can actually shape this vision. Could you please give an insight on how the language in Maestro shape the vision of Australia… truly lost…..
Hi again,
It’s a while since I’ve read it but I think you’ll find that dialogue will help you, especially between Paul and his friends. There would also be the description of places and distinctly Australian phrases. Your email suggests you may not be in Australia. Are you studying in NSW or somewhere else. It may help me to help you,
Judy
Thank you!
I’ll have a look at these and get back to you if anything doesn’t make sense.
Thanks
Any time.
Navigating the Global:
Eat Love Pray Elizabeth Gilbert
Brick Lane Monica Ali
A Season in Red Kristy Needham
Almost French Sarah Turnbull
The Bookseller of Kabul Asne Seierstad
Home song Stories dir. Tony Ayers
Lucky Miles dir. Michael Rowland
Babel dir. Alejandro Gonzales
Heya Judy.
I just wanted to aks you whether the book Forbidden Love by Norma khouri would be a good realted tect for belonging and supportive of Simple Gift the core text. I wanted to look at Edward Scissorhands as well. The themes I was thinking of were the ’search for belonging is fulfilling’ and ‘pressure to conform is a barrier to true belonging’ and I still have to think of a third theme.
What do ya reckon?
Forbidden Love is an interesting choice. It’s about belonging (through love) that is challenged by culture. It raises a lot of issues for you to discuss and you don’t have to have exact matches with the core text, just be able to make links. Edward Scissorhands is also a good choice and there will be links between all texts.
Thanks a million
hi, i am from Malaysia and doing ESL. Maestro is my elective, Australian vision. I do not see anything related to Australia as paul’s life is the life of any normal teenager if not for Eduar Keller. I see their descriptive language about Darwin and certain language that is colloquail .What about keller and post war and australian vision
Hi Suba,
I’ve sent an answer to an email you sent. But here’s answers to these specific questions:
Australia took in a lot of European migrants post war: Greek, Italian, Jewish. Refugees from the hardships. Australia was also seen as a country where you could get a new start and it was seen as prosperous and peaceful. Reasons why Keller might come. It was the beginnings of becoming truly multicultural, rather than the Anglo Saxon country it had basically been til then. Between paul and keller, you have youth and age and you have the european and Australian sensibilities.
Hope that’s a help,
Judy
Hi Suba,
I’ve sent an answer to an email you sent. But here’s answers to these specific questions:
Australia took in a lot of European migrants post war: Greek, Italian, Jewish. Refugees from the hardships. Australia was also seen as a country where you could get a new start and it was seen as prosperous and peaceful. Reasons why Keller might come. It was the beginnings of becoming truly multicultural, rather than the Anglo Saxon country it had basically been til then. Between paul and keller, you have youth and age and you have the european and Australian sensibilities.
Hope that’s a help,
Judy
Hi I was just wondering if you can tie the concept of belonging between romulus (gaita) and the kite runner (hossieni), some relevant quotes and how they work would be wonderful
I think you can link the two texts because romulus and the protagonist in Kite Runner are both deeply affected by their choices and their life experiences as a consequence of those choices. I’m assuming you have trials- next week? I can’t do quotes over night and, really, that’s part of study. I can direct you a bit however but that will have to be tomorrow.
You have two good texts here and they reflect ‘belonging’ in different ways which is also good. You don’t have to have exact connections; it is a complex concept. Relevant quotes, particularly with your prescribed text, should be a natural product of your studies in class and through assessment tasks.
Hi
I was wondering if you by any chance knew how an essay on the crucible would begin? As in…how would you introduce THE CRUCIBLE in the essay….do you have a sample essay i could look at?
Any essay must address the question it is answering. Deconstruct the question for its component parts and address each of those parts linking in your prescribed text and your related material.
I suspect that’s not a huge help in that your question suggests you want to go in with a prepared response. The best you can do is have an understanding of the concept of belonging and how your texts connect to that understanding. I occassionally read essays sent to me but ‘boredofstudies’ would be the best place to go for essays.
hello
could you help me with related text that i could use with The Crucible being my core text?
Hi Sammie,
There’s a range here that will fit to some extent with your text. If there’s a link follow it for some more information.
Try:
Monica Ali, Brick Lane http://www.themanbookerprize.com/search
Aleksander Solzhenitsyn, A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Day_in_the_Life_of_Ivan_Denisovich
Alan Paton, Cry, The beloved country
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry,_the_beloved_country
Markus Zusak, The Book Thief http://www.panmacmillan.com.au/resources/MZ-TheBookThief.pdf
Toni Morrison, Beloved http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beloved_(novel)
Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird
Barry Hines, A Kestrel for a Knave http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Kestrel_for_a_Knave
Lionel Shriver, We Need To Talk About Kevin http://www.readinggroupguides.com/guides3/we_need_talk_kevin2.asp
Khaled Hoseini, The Kite Runner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kite_Runner
Non fiction
My Place, Sally Morgan http://www.facp.iinet.net.au/teachingnotes/myplaceback.html
* Angela’s Ashes, Frank McCourt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela%27s_Ashes
* Belonging, Isabel Huggan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel_Huggan
* Infidel, Ayaan Hirsi Ali http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infidel_(book)
* Tears of the Desert, Halima Bashir http://www.independentweekly.com.au/news/local/news/entertainment/book-review-tears-of-the-desert-halima-bashir-with-damien-lewis/1239219.aspx
* Falling Leaves, Adeline Yen Mah
* Mao’s Last Dancer, Li Cunxin http://www.licunxin.com/
* The Diary of Anne Frank, Anne Frank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diary_of_a_Young_Girl
* Black Like Me, John Howard Griffin
Poetry
* Belonging, New Poetry by Iranians Around the World, Edited by Niloufar Talebi
* Joseph’s Coat: An anthology of multicultural writing, Peter Skryznecki
Poems
* W H Auden, “Refugee Blues”
* Bobbi Sykes, “Ambrose”, “Monopoly”
* Bruce Dawe, “Drifters”
* Oodgeroo Noonuccal, “We Are Going”, “colour Bar”
* Robert Frost, “The Mending Wall”
Graphic novels and picture books
* The Island, Greder Armin
* Way Home, Libby Hathorn and Gregory Rogers
* The Arrival, Shaun Tan
Film
Gran Torino, dir. Clint Eastwood
* Brick Lane, dir. Sarah Gavron
* Edward Scissorhands, dir. Tim Burton
* Home Song Stories, dir. Tony Ayers
* The December Boys, dir. Rod Hardy
* High Tide, dir. Gillian Armstrong
* Little Miss Sunshine, dir. Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Faris
* Look Both Ways, dir. Sarah Watt
* In America, dir. Jim Sheridan
thank you so much that helps a great deal!
hi
just wondering how you would link ‘ The December Boys’, ‘The Mending Wall’ and ‘The Crucible’. Also I’m not so great at analyzing films and if how you can help me with some analysis for ‘The December Boys’. Please and thank you.
hi
just wondering how you would link ‘ The December Boys’, ‘The Mending Wall’ and ‘The Crucible’. Also I’m not so great at analyzing films and if you can help me with some analysis for ‘The December Boys’, please and thank you.
Hi Sammie,
I think you have some good texts there. I haven’t seen the film in a while but I can try.
thanks much appreciated!
hey judy
i need to find 2 related texts for peter skrzynecki, urgently because i got my final trials for english on monday, can u suggest a few plaese?
She didn’t go online for 24 hours, is why. Refugee Blues is good. It deals with a specific context: WW2 and the Jewish emigres in Europe. Skyrznecki’s background is Polish migrants from post war Europe. Not too dissimilar. You’re only problem with the text is that it is a poem like your prescribed text. another problem is leaving it so late.
peter skryznecki is prescribed but i need related text for an essay to relate to it
does “refugee blues” relate to “peter skryznecki” and if so how
bean why doesnt she help me?
I’m interested in using James Blunt’s ‘No Bravery’, but I’m a little confused. I understand the context of the song (Kosovo war) but how does this relate to Belonging? Sorry, probably a silly question, but I really want to use the song and just want to know exactly what I should be referring to here.
Thanks so much!
No question is silly.
It’s about loss and change caused by war. War destroys people, homes etc and with that goes a sense of who you are and where you belong. Make sure it allows you to connect with your prescribed text.
Judy
James Blunt
No Bravery lyrics
Send “No Bravery”
There are children standing here,
Arms outstretched into the sky,
Tears drying on their face.
He has been here.
Brothers lie in shallow graves.
Fathers lost without a trace.
A nation blind to their disgrace,
Since he’s been here.
And I see no bravery,
No bravery in your eyes anymore.
Only sadness.
(x2)
Only sadness
Houses burnt beyond repair.
The smell of death is in the air.
A woman weeping in despair says,
He has been here.
Tracer lighting up the sky.
It’s another families’ turn to die.
A child afraid to even cry out says,
He has been here.
And I see no bravery,
No bravery in your eyes anymore.
Only sadness.
(x2)
There are children standing here,
Arms outstretched into the sky,
But no one asks the question why,
He has been here.
Old men kneel to accept their fate.
Wives and daughters cut and raped.
A generation drenched in hate.
Says, he has been here.
And I see no bravery,
No bravery in your eyes anymore.
Only sadness.
And I see no bravery,
No bravery in your eyes anymore.
And I see no bravery,
No bravery in your eyes anymore.
Only sadness.
(x2)
Only sadness
Thanks so much! I knew it just a simple point that I was missing!
i have had conflicting opinions on whether or not to quote a whole quote or to just put in a few words from the start and then insert ‘…’ and then add the last few words. i wasnt sure who else i could ask. one teacher said that it gives the whole point you are trying to make meaning and a marker may not know what you are talking about and another teacher said that it doesnt matter as the marker should know exactly what you are trying to say and what the quote is. what do you think ? thanks!
I’d put in the whole quote so long as it is short. If it’s a Shakespearean soliloquy use the dots but better still is to quote the critical lines. If you quote from a poem of Shakespeare and the quote is two lines or less use a slash (/) to indicate the line break. If it’s three lines or longer lay it out as in the original and indented. When you’re quoting it’s your argument that is the important thing; the quote supports your argument. In other words, don’t go over the top.
Hope that helps,
Judy
Hi Judy,
Just wondering what you thought of the film ‘Mean Girls’ as a text for belonging?
‘Mean Girls’ is ok because it’s about that teen peer group acceptance thing and finding individuality. I’ve always thought it was a good teen flick. And I’m not the target audience. What’s your prescribed text?
Hi Judy,
i was just wondering what was the link between Romulus My father by Raimond Gaita, (prescribed text) and A Mending Wall by Robert Frost?
thanks.
Mending Wall is about relationships and Frost uses the wall as a symbol for that. One person is cautious and wants the wall. Harmony is achieved by working on it together. Romulus is also about working on relationationships: Rom doesn’t desert Christina; he is always there for Rai; his friendship with Hora is important to his survival and also to Rai’s growing up. We work on things; sometimes they work and sometimes they don’t – like walls: some people want them; some don’t and sometimes they need repairing.
Hi Judy,
Thanks for that! I’m actually a student teacher – not a HSC student! But I found this site very helpful with all the related material you suggested. When I go back in term 4, my ‘newly’ year 12 class will be doing area of study stuff – so the prescribed text is The Simple Gift, however I was thinking of also using James Blunt’s ‘No Bravery’ as a song, as well as Bruce Dawe’s ‘Drifters’ poem as they both relate to belonging and not belonging to a place and the students should be able to then link it to The Simple Gift. However, I also wanted to do some lessons on advertising and consumerism and how we buy things so that we can ‘belong’ to certain groups within society… and I thought maybe I could also use Mean Girls for the whole teen peer group thing?? What do you think about this idea?
Sarah
I think ‘Mean Girls’ is a good choice. It’s going to appeal to the students but it’s above the usual teen flicks in terms of issues and quality etc. ‘Clueless’ would also do it and it’s no longer a prescribed text.
It’s also nice to have a student teacher ask for advice. Best of luck with the teaching. It’s a great career although it has it’s challenges.
Im doing my HSC and Strictly Ballroom is our essay topic, my related texts that I have chosen are Visual – Australian Beach Pattern by Charles Meere, Song – Belonging by Bread and i cant decide on a third text. I was thinking I could take a small part of My place by Sally Morgan and use that.
What do you think???
They sound like excellent choices. My Place is a very good choice and you can use an excerpt. In the end you will only need to use two but having the third up your sleeve is an excellent idea so you can best answer the question on the day.
hi =)
i am nervously studying for my hsc english paper next week and i cant seem to find any related material for my ‘close study of text’.. our prescribed material is the movie ‘witness’.. is there any chance you could supply me with a few related material please?
I don’t think you need related material for the Close Study of Text module. Your focus is the text itself. I’ve just checked the Syllabus and Prescriptions documents and there is not mention of related material. You only need it for Area of Study and Module C. Get back to me if you have more questions.
need information and techniques about ‘drifters’ by bruce dawe relating them to belong, as well to the immigrant chronicle by Peter skrzynecki.
thanks
I’m not in a position to do this at such short notice.
Try: http://www.hsc.csu.edu.au/english/
Or ring HSC Advice Line.
hi
just wondering, is it possible to get any help on quotes from romulus?
thankyou if u can
I’m happy to answer questions but I don’t do the spadework because that means you aren’t learning. Quotattions are something you need to do. I can tell you if you’ve found good one for your purpose, however.
I am happy to answer questions and comment on ideas etc but finding quotes is something you need to do based on reading the text and engaging with classwork. It’s part of the learning process and familiarising yourself with the book.
Just wondering if “The Namesake” is a good related text to use for the AOS Belonging essay. I have just learnt that my prescribed text is going to be Shakespeare’s “As You LIke It”. Would these two texts work well together?
‘The Namesake’ is a prescribed text for Belonging and can’t be used as related material in the Area of Study.
i love this site. MARRY ME!
Hi
My prescribed text is the poetry of Emily Dickinson. I was just wondering whether you have any good suggestions on related texts that I can use to link to the themes in the poems?
Thanks
I have a generic list but I am about to put some time into that one so I’ll get back to you.
The generic list is on this page: http://www.e-rudite.net/belonging.htm Just scroll down. The best idea is to pick something that has some connection to dickinson. Are you doing Advanced?
Yes, I am doing Advanced and I am finding it hard to find related texts that do have a connection to Dickinson. So, thank you in advance for your help!
Hi,
Has anyone watched Mr and Mrs Iyer.
Just started the HSC Course and am wondering if it would make a solid related text?
Thanks for the help Judy,
Maz
It sounds like it would do the job. (Did some research.) It is an unuasual selection and relevant , both of which are good reasons for choosing it.
Hi
I was just wondering if you have any suggestions for written texts that would be good as related texts for As You Like It. So far I haven’t had any luck.
Thanks
hi, im doing edward scissorhands as a related text in speech
i have to write around 300-350 words
any advice on how to start/thesis statement
and what is should include..? thanks
That’s a personal favourite of mine.
You need to start with your prescribed text and draw the related material in to support your argument. Your argument needs to focus more on the prescribed text that the related material. What ever you do you need to demonstrate understanding of the question and of the concept. The phrase used is ‘in the context of your studies’ which means that the definition of the concept that you arrive at needs to derive from the texts. Also remeber that belonging is a nice and fuzzy word but there can be an off side eg alienation of isolation which the Burton film admirably deals with.
hi i was wondering if choosing ‘a little princess’ by frances hodgson burnett was a good idea for the AOS Belonging.
I was thinking of saying how wealth can determine where you belong in society.
Thanks
That’s an interesting choice and it’s very much about ‘belonging’. Book or film?
You have two children with issues to deal with of different natures. Plenty to talk about.
Hey,
I need help with analysis for my related text. Henry Lawson’s ‘The Drover’s Wife’ (the techniques is a real trouble for me) and the connection it has with Miller’s ‘The Crucible’
Sam
The Drover’s Wife and The Crucible are both about people under great stress. In one case from lies told to protect oneself against a very inflexible community and fear generated in having to go to such extremes. In the other against nature and isolation and the efforts of one to protext others. When you are looking for techniques look for language used in key moments – to describe environment, emotions. With a play consider the staging: how would it look, sound; how does the playwrite want the audience to feel. Think of the scene where the girls first ’see’ the devil. It slowly builds to a frenzy. Why? Who instigates it?
I’m not in a position this week to go through the Driver’s Wife to answer this question and I assume there is a deadline. I’m sure you understand that many people ask questions. This one would require a lot of time. So in the short term I can only be of limited help. If time is not an issue get back to me.
i have an essay question how your prescribed text and your selected text examine the concept of beloning one of my text are “As You Like It” as my second text i have decided to do the song “My island home” but i having trouble with the techniques and how i can related these to with the notion of belonging
Techniques isn’t so hard if you try to see them as connected to meaning. You get the idea of what the composer is saying (meaning) from how they say it (techniques). So to understand a text you are responding to the techniques used: dialogue; characterisation; staging or imagery; rhythm etc.
Every time you listen to a song you like you are responding to the sound and the meaning and those two have been designed to go together. It’s the same with a play or a poem or anything else, only sometimes it is more complex.
The concept of belonging doesn’t have to be the same in each text so long as you understand what it is. It helps to be able to make connections. Both texts have the idea of the importance of home – a place you feel in tune with for personal or cultural reasons.
What are some themes relsting to belonging, in the song stupid girls- by pink????? HELLPPP.
This website has a great vocab list that basically defines the concepts that may or not be involved in your text: http://www.insidebreak.org.au/belonging/.
What is Pink saying? She is very good on girl’s issue in relation to self esteem, peer groups and the need to belong.
hello judy,
i am having trouble finding techniques relating to belonging in the book Mao’s Last Dancer. your help will be much appreciated! x)
Techniques in themselves don’t ‘relate to belonging’. The composer, in this case Li Cunxin, uses techniques to express his feelings about issues related to belonging: the separation from his parents, his isolation at school and in Houston, his isolation from China when he defects. so look at how he represents episodes that deal with some aspect of belonging.
Hi there!
My prescribed text are Emily Dickinson’s poems and I need to find written and visual texts that relate to the ideas of belonging in her poems. I just read the comment that you made above how she discusses the need for companionship and how the characters belong to nature etc., but it is difficult to find texts that incorporate those ideas. I barely even know what ideas her poems has about belonging.
I was thinking of doing the novel ‘The Catcher in the Rye’ by J.D Salinger or ‘The Lord of the Flies’ by William Golding and the movie ‘Edward Scissorhands’. But I think it’s just too difficult to draw relations with each other.
Any help would be most appreciated
.
Holden is a ‘loner’ like Dickinson to start with but he finds a way to fit in with his world ultimately. Edward is also isolated but he is different. You don’t need characters to ‘match’ only to have some threat of commanlity so you can also discuss the differences because that will show your understanding of belonging.
I am having trouble in looking for film techniqes in ‘Stand by me 1986″. I have to relate this film back to the crucible by Arthur Miller and show how they both relate to belonging. I know the crucible but its just the movie im haveing difficulty with.
please help me.
The boys a group just like the girls but for different reasons. They aren’t bound by fear. The boys go through a number of challenges that means they shift in their allegiances – all part of community and belonging. You can compare and contrast quite well with these texts. I like the railway line scene. good cinematic techniques.
Refugee Blues, The Arrival and My Island Home are THE most generic texts. They are on every single Belonging list, and I can guarantee that a huge percentage of the state will do them.
Maybe you should look outside the lists in an attempt to make your related texts completely different, and to make your essay stand out from the hundreds that markers will look at.
Mean Girls is such a predictable text to use as well, steer clear of that.
I agree but they only get to be popular because someone suggests them and it catches on because they work. And a lot of people like the security of the known, something there are notes on. I try to look outside the commonly used texts to build the list on website, e-rudite.net, but via the blog I find people will do what they are going to do.
What suggestions would you like to contribute?
Hi, i’m doing the movie Little Miss Sunshine as my related text and i was wondering which Skrzynecki poem would best suit it, i was thinking either “St Patrick’s College” or “Migrant Hostel” but i really don’t know.
Thanks!
St Patrick’s College and 10 Mary Street might allow you to make connections although there are differences. It is important to recognise differences because they show you are thoughtful. This website will give you a good set of words to use: http://www.insidebreak.org.au/category/belonging/
Hi,
im doing an english assessment on belonging,
my related text is ‘My Island Home’,
im desperate for techniques on belonging,
any suggestions?
Contrast: city/island
chorus
use of ‘I’ and ‘my’ to personalise
use of memory: imagery – sensory
Song lyrics aren’t a strong choice because the techniques tend to be simple if not limited. We can look for a poem for you next year if you want to think about that. Don’t consider changing now.
Hello,
I am doing As it is in heaven and Romulus My Father as my related materials.
Do you think they go together well ?
i am doing my sisters keeper by jodi piccult and no bravery by james blunt as my additional texts..my prescribed text is simple gift by steven herrick..how can i connect all these together??
You don’t need to find exact details but some common ground such as community, friendship or alternatively isolation and alienation. Self esteem or the lack of it is a big issue in belonging. Most texts will deal with it in some way. Having differences is a good thing because it shows you’re thinking and understand your texts. Picoult and Herrick are relationship focused and the Blunt comes out of a different set of experiences – Falklands war, I think. So look for the threads they have in common and look for the differences.
This link will give you a good vocabulary to use: http://www.insidebreak.org.au/category/belonging/
hi
are there any rnb or hip hop songs that are to do with belonging?
plz help my teacher siad we should choose songs coz they are easy to remember when sitting the exam bt i only like rnb and hip hop and i cant think of any songs i knw there are lots bt im just gone blank and its already overdue
plz help
I’m sure there are but it’s not an area I know a lot about. I suggest you google the lyrics of a favourite performer and search the lyrics. If you’re still not sure, send me the link and I’ll check the lyrics for you.
I really need two related texts..one similar and one contrasting to my prescribed text: Skrzynecki’s poems.
I was hoping to find one film…and one novel/short story.
Thanks.
The Arrival by Shaun Tan is excellent but it’s also popular.
Catcher in the Rye by J D Salinger
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
The book Thief by Markus Zusak
Brick Lane by Moinca Ali – a film and a novel
Gran Torino directed by Clint Eastwood
Australiadirected by Baz Lurhman
Beneath Clouds directed by Ivan Sen
The Boys are Back directed by Scott Hicks
Apologies for the late reply but I will be reliable in 2010.
Have a good holiday and make sure you read your texts,
Judy
This link also has suggestions: http://www.e-rudite.net/belonging.htm
‘The Body’ is in a collection called ‘Different Seasons’: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Body_(novella).
‘The Story of Tom Brennan’ looks fine. This link may help you: http://www.randomhouse.com.au/Downloads/Kids/TeacherGuides/TeachingSupportKitTheStoryofTomBrennan.pdf.
Just check it’s not on the Prescribed Texts list.
The Dickinson will require texts that link to the needs she discusses, not the specifics of her life, eg the need for companionship or the realisation that someone is more of a loner than others or the love of nature. So you could look at people orientated films, books etc. The current film ‘The Boys are Back’, Tim Winton’s ‘Breath’, J D Salinger’s ‘The Catcher in the Rye’, Harper Lee’s ‘To Kill A Mockingbird’ (book or film – either are great texts). If you need other suggestions get back to me.